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I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

💔

en réponse à Paul Kater

@paulk it's politicians, media personalities, commentators, artists, and ordinary people you meet at the mall: People are livid.
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And we/they should be. I can only hope with 100% power that the ones who can actually do something against that idiot will actually DO SOMETHING and not suck up to DonOld again when the going gets a bit rougher.

I'm always looking for ways to reach politicians and ask them/urge them to act.

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I’m just waiting for his next brain fart, because you know it’s coming.
General Bone Spurs is consistent with his idiocy if nothing else.
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It stuns me however that it had to come to this, before sentiment flipped, when there's been so many previous examples of the same kind of disrespect.

To be fair, it's not so much the US as a whole (the majority do not agree with the administration), but Trump and his fascist pack.

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Sadly people realize this only when they are affected, the US has been a shitty imperialistic aggressor doing horrible things to countries all over the world and to their pripelje people like forever.
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many of us know, and understand what’s happened, and feel really ashamed of it. 💔
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I don't see this as a threat to just Denmark, but to all countries in Europe.
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I see this as permission finally to do our own thing. If we start self-hosting our own cloud services, then we can tell them to go pound sand when the US inevitably starts to whine about the current account deficit this and other European sovereignty actions will cause.

No hard feelings from me. Without the US resupplying Ukraine through the first three years, they would've run out of munitions.

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en réponse à Randahl Fink

And it's not just Denmark. The US can fuck off until the Trump regime is behind bars. Then we can talk again.
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This is topped by the sloppy, false allegations that Denmark is a bad ally, and that Nato allies can't be trusted to assist when the US need them. When the Danish body count is the same as the American. I remember seeing Danish Nato vets in Copenhagen after a manifestation, in their uniforms, some in wheelchairs or on crutches, depending on if they had lost one or both legs.
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I have the same sense: irrevocable rupture. I think is it was actually delayed for a long time, through patient hope and maybe also sunk-cost fallacy, at least since the Iraq war. This is just the clear, sad reckoning and admission, the final divorce after having tried to make a bad marriage work for a long time. It may seem sudden to one mate, but the other has had reasons for decades.
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Yup. It’s going to be a long time I think before Americans really figure out how much damage has been done. Commercial media platforms aren’t gonna talk about it much and not in any useful detail.
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Maybe a third of them get it, another third think this is what they want because they are in a cult. They don't get that it ends with them drinking purple Kool-aide for their leader.

The final third are in some ways most deplorable - they may get it they don' t care as long as they can afford gas and Combo Meals at the drive through.

This is what 50+ years of underfunding education does.

Peace.

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I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

Randahl Fink à partagé.

en réponse à Randahl Fink

My take is that Tiels / Musks accelerationist agenda which Vance and Trump are merely executing, will be far more harmful than hitler..

Hitler "only" wanted to kill jews, darks, gays and cripples. Accelerationism wants the same plus everyone else who isn't a billionaire. It seeks a world of absolute societal separation: either abject poverty because you're sub human, or the few who own all that exists to own.

Public seriousness is nowhere near where it should be. They've gamed us.

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It should not be forgotten. It is a lesson, a sad one. And no, I don't think the vast majority of US Americans know or understand what happened. Perhaps because they're busy trying not to get shot or arrested by the gov't they elected.
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It's the same in Canada and I fear the only way for the US to recover is with extreme measures.

Mass executions.

Trump and his entire administration have to go. The leadership in both houses have to go. State level Republicans who let him on the ballot have to go.

So many people have to go that the next Trump-like person to rise will be killed by their own party to protect they own lives.

It's the only way I will trust the US again and I've talk to many who agree.

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and it just gets worse.
In Australia we wake up every morning wondering what stupidity has erupted from the mouth of that poisonous moron. Todays it is this:
aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/23/f…

The parallels with Hitler are clear. The world must unite against that manipulative, malevolent, ignorant narcissist. Your views are shared by all nations that once looked at the US as a friend.
#worldagainsttrump

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the trouble is most people in America won't know or care & don't have a passport.
They are very insular in and care little for world news.
I don't know if things have changed but their news focus used to be this order;
My local big city
My State
Federal
Quirky world stories
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I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

That is not just the case in Denmark, I can accept Americans citizens, always have done.

The government has been evil for too many years to count, now Europe, at least most of it, is waking up to the fact.

GET US TROOPS OUT OF EUROPE
They are a danger to our safety not an asset.

en réponse à Randahl Fink

Too right. Most of the people I currently speak to in Britain want the country to cut ties with America completely, which is so sad after Normandy and WW2 but totally understandable. American voters have been unbelievably stupid falling for Trump’s old school far right rhetoric. The lessons of history are clearly fading with a new generation, and a new world order’s arising. I have a very uneasy feeling it’ll all end in tears…
en réponse à Randahl Fink

This wasn’t a misunderstanding — it was a break in trust. For decades, Denmark’s relationship with the U.S. was rooted in gratitude, shared history, and respect. When sovereignty is spoken of lightly, it reopens old wounds and turns admiration into anger.
Trust between nations, like between people, depends on respect. Once that is publicly questioned, the damage doesn’t fade quickly — and it isn’t easily forgotten
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Democracies in the West should work as 'universal healthcare' works. Back in the 40's Germany got sick and all chipped in to cure it from the disease. This time it's the US that needs help.
New technologies allow for mutations of the virus to spread.
What we really need for the long term is a vaccine.
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There are a few people in Denmark who still believe USA is our closest ally, those people are all found on Christiansborg.
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I appreciate the comments in this thread. It solidifies, even if only anecdotally, the on-the-ground anger that I wasn't sure that Europeans were feeling. As they should. I just wish the leaders would act and isolate the disease following Mark Carney's sober assessment.

Some of us knew everything was over the night of the election (and before it, if this unthinkable present came true). European leaders should have known it too. I hope for the world they're at that point now.

en réponse à Randahl Fink

It's not just Denmark — it's all of Western Europe!

Trump has torn the USA out of modern Western societies(a fact that's been clear since March 2025).
The USA _was_ the heart of modern Western societies.

This vacuum has yet to be filled; I have absolutely no idea where we are heading.

Even if Trump dies within the next year and if Vance blows up the rest and MAGA implodes, everything that happened last year — and is still ongoing — will shape the next decades.

This is a fact I am fully aware of, and it will shape the rest of my life...

en réponse à Randahl Fink

Russia delivered Europe and the nazi camps, not the USA. USA wanted to administrate France after the D-Day. De Gaulle took them by surprise re organising the territory into departments. Since, USA lies about WW2. It's time to remember the true history. I'm french and i'm soooo sad to consider it that way.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

I don't think the relation is dead... I think it will be a difficult one while Mr Drumpf is in office, but while EU is formed around institutions, the US is more individualistic... meaning that just as he aims to destroy what the previous built, the next one might very well undo much of what he built. While that is not nearly as good for the US, it might mean that the relations between the two countries survive Drumpf.
On the other hand... this depends on who will be the next POTUS.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

We have abandoned so much for this maniac but nothing so valuable as the connections you describe. I apologize for the clumsy, chaotic threat we have become and hope we can be a part of something better in the future.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

Much like the situation in Russia, many citizens remain unaware of the profound damage their leadership is inflicting on the world – both in terms of tangible destruction and the lasting stain on global perception. These are wounds that will take decades to heal.

Germans, in particular, may still recall the weight of such a legacy, having faced the harsh reality of being held accountable for the actions of their ancestors.

en réponse à Randahl Fink

The venal kleptocracy behind Trump is today exerting influence around the world, Trump is but a figurehead. Until people realise that this is about regular people versus the top 0.1% and their enablers, things will not get better. In the U.K. and US, both mainstream parties have been captured by corporate and / or Zionist paymasters, which disenfranchises voters. It’s unsurprising 1/3 of people (much more actually) don’t vote.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

Similar vibes in Canada. The 200+ year partnership is dead, shattered in what felt like minutes.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

Canada has gone through a similar transformation. It started with talks of annexation and 51st state rhetoric a year ago.

Now their politicians are actively calling for the province of Alberta to break off and join the US.

edmonton.citynews.ca/2026/01/2…

en réponse à Randahl Fink

Yup. USA used to be the de facto leader of “the Western World”, whatever that was supposed to mean and whatever you thought of it. It isn’t anymore. That’s how great MAGA made America again.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

as a Canadian, I feel the same. I grew up feeling that the US was a friendly next door neighbour-another branch of the same family. Now I feel such intense animosity, I’m not sure I could ever cross that border again.
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Sadly, I agree with you. I'm a former British soldier. With his threats to Greenland and now his belittling of allied contributions to the conflict in Afghanistan (at the USA's request), I am absolutely disgusted and, to be honest, worried for the future. My only form of protest at the moment is to avoid all USA products - this is why I have left Facebook and joined Mastodon yesterday. Europe must be stronger.
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The same here in France, people are immensely in rage. But fortunately, those with a brain can differ between a fascist state and the good people who try to resist. And meanwhile even some Republicans don't like thes politics. I think, a strong Europe showing red lines will help the resisting people. We shouldn't forget them.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

For a lack of a better term, it is going to take a period of de-nazification to even begin mending relationships. To be clear, the American political and oligarch classes are riddled with collaborators and outright Nazis, so things will continue to escalate until they face consequences. My personal estimation is that this period will last 20-40 years especially considering that the opposition party (Democrats) are beholden to the same oligarchs who helped cause this.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

yeah, same feelings here. At least the more evolved Dutch…
It’s about time (long overdue actually) that our politicians got their heads out of their bottoms and do the right things.
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Nor should it be. Many idiots think we need to find a way to 'work with' Nazis who want to destroy everything. We stupidly keep giving assholes like the slime comprising America's GOP a seat at the table when they've made clear they'll devour everything and kill others to do so.

No one should forgive the United States. NO ONE.

en réponse à Randahl Fink

I work at a Danish company owned by a US one, working in the US. It’s been socially strained since we joined, but I dread how things will go now.
en réponse à Randahl Fink

Germany has recovered well* and I'd be surprised if Denmark did not have a good relationship with the current German nation.

Time will tell if the USA becomes more isolated and the next North Korea or if we recover and rebuild and become the next (post-WWII) Germany.

*notwithstanding recent ADF activities (sadly far-right groups are springing up everywhere.)

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en réponse à Randahl Fink

Unfortunately, I believe that most people in the USA don't know what is going on in the relationship between the USA and Europe. If they have an inkling, they probably don't know most of it.

Americans that are just watching regular news and are not actively looking for neutral information... are inundated with propaganda about the greatness of Trump.

Case in point the recent Fox News coverage of Trump at Davos where he soundly defeated the EU.... ... .. 😑

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It’s the same here in Canada. They seem to have been our friend for a long time. The backstabbing and betrayal stings. We are fucking done with them.
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It's sad and infuriating from our side, too. Our democracy is dead. Our system of checks and balances is dead. So although something like 90% of Americans polled were strongly against attacking our friends and allies, there was somehow no way to stop this travesty. I blame everyone in DC. I am confident we'll get our democracy back. But the loss of our allies is permanent. It's tragic. My silver lining is this: ironically, America alone doesn't need to be armed to the teeth anymore.
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of course, I agree with you. the USA must win back the trust of the world through actions for the common good. this racist insane fascist regime must be vanquished first.
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More or less same here in France. But I fear our own ruling class, as well as being angry at the US, is in the same time taking notes. Many many politicians here are eager to implement most of Trump's nazi politics.
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hear the same in Belgium (center of the EU), less so as we weren't the direct victim, but before nobody would talk bad against US.

Now everyone call them Lazy, Traitor etc

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If we ever get out of this somehow, I really really hope the world does *NOT* forget. Make us hurt. Make us remember what we did. Make us remember that we have let it get this far and probably further still.
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It is not only your bilateral relationship, it's that of all (former) U.S. Western allies. First, because we are not indifferent to what happens to our friends and allies and secondly because we're in that together and whatever this regime does to you it will also eventually do to us.

And that's the appalling part: not only don't they realise the damage they caused in their relationship with the Danes, but they even don't see the damage it did on their relationship with the free world.

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I do hope in my lifetime no serious politician will ever again consider USA an "ally" or "friend". So many red lines has been crossed that this should define the relationship not for months, but decades to come.
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I don't know what the future holds (no one does, of course), but it will take a long time and a lot of hard work to repair all the damage that Trump's United States is doing to international relations. Given that it will be possible at all.

#USA #Trump #Europe #Denmark #Greenland #Canada #politics #peace #internationallaw

en réponse à Randahl Fink

The US has squandered its resources on military & financial might, while degrading its education & mental health programs. The result is enough ignorant psychopaths to hijack the cockpit & send us into a tailspin.
Teach your children well. C,S,&N -
youtube.com/watch?v=zj8FlXGPcO…
en réponse à Randahl Fink

The trust won't even begin to be rebuilt until everyone in the Trump administration is rotting in jail, and laws are passed to prevent this sort of shit to ever pass again.
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I don't know what there is to "love" from the #US this century. It's certainly for the less lucid or perceptive ones to understand it only today.
#us
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Trump has no idea about the importance of trust. He is pretty good in getting what he wants - kind of like a child throwing a tamper tantrum at the grocery store - but this is all short term. In the long term, trusts broken and it will take a very long time to rebuild. America is losing soft power at unprecedented speeds.
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as an american, i hope that one day, when we get rid of our dictatorship and make sure it can never come back, that we can be of comfortable terms with the free world
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it's a disgrace. My congressman is a veteran. He's fought alongside others in NATO. And the most he could summon in response to my complaint about how Trump and the executive branch are treating our allies is a form letter saying that we're not going to invade Greenland.
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My grandfather was on the beaches of Normandy. He was just a kid, pulling bodies out of the water & onto the ship. I can't imagine what he would have to say now that there's a draft-dodging, traitorous, child r*pist destroying all of our alliances. Fxck Nazis 🤬
en réponse à Randahl Fink

@jack_daniel As an American, I can’t blame you. I myself may never forgive the Americans who voted for Trump. It reframes my entire understanding of my country, and not in a good way.
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I don't understand why people give something which happened nearly 100 years ago this much importance.
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This is also true internally. The structure and institutions are so damaged now that no one I know would believe anything coming from the CDC or DOJ. The self-poisoning has been so fast and thorough the old USA is not coming back in my lifetime. I fear the best we can hope for is balkanization.
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I straight up wish that the US would balkanize. My region has way more in common culturally and politically with Eastern Canada than with the South or Midwest. I dont want to have anything to do anymore with the fools that support these bastards.
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en réponse à Randahl Fink

Hate the government and the people who voted for the loser.
I am an American and I do not agree with the government. There are many of us.#LosEstadosUnidos #Philadelphia